Talk:Yale romanization

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Isn't the Yale romanization of Japanese actually JSL? WhisperToMe 05:35, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

That would contradict the information at JSL, where it says that it was created in 1987. According to this article, the Yale romanizations were created during World War II. Cohen the Bavarian 00:47, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to indicate Chinese tones? Numbers?--Jusjih 03:29, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wade-Giles uses superscripted numbers. Yale uses tone marks over vowels, as does pin-yin. P0M 06:00, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The section on Mandarin consists largely of subjective musings concerning the mertis of the each system. It really needs to be more objectively worded and be converted to a more terse and encyclopedic style of prose.

Peter ^Isotalo 08:04, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Y" in Cantonese

Why does Yale use "y" to represent "j" in its Cantonese romanization system? This doesn't make sense. Badagnani 06:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From the chart, it looks like the "y" represents /j/ (from the International Phonetic Alphabet), which is pronounced as the "y" in English. 35.11.75.128 23:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The observation is based on the Jyutping romanization system, where "j" represents the sound of "y." WikiPro1981X (talk) 02:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese

How come there's no discussion of Yale romanization of Japanese? It's not discussed here and not even mentioned at Romanization of Japanese. - furrykef (Talk at me) 00:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorely disappointed that there is still no information on this subject here... - furrykef (Talk at me) 22:21, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Furrykef. Funnily enough, the Japanese Wikipedia contains a translation of this page. anton (talk) 11:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the Japanese Wikipedia article, the only mention of the Japanese language itself is in the first sentence, just like the English Wikipedia. In that version, too, details are given on the Yale Romanization of Mandarin, Cantonese and Korean, but not Japanese. evin290 (talk) 05:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So called "Yale Romanization of Japanese" is the system used by Eleanor Jorden for her books and more widely known as the "JSL romanization". Hellerick (talk) 03:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But the article says in the lead that the Yale romanizations (for languages other than Mandarin) were created in the 1960s and 1970s. JSL was created in 1987. So either Yale romanization of Japanese is not JSL, or the article is wrong. - furrykef (Talk at me) 23:23, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diacritic Marks in Zhuyin Fuhao and Yale

In the article is it stated that the diacritic marks (tone markings) used in the Yale system were later adopted for Hanyu Pinyin, but the the phonetic alphabet known as Zhuyin Fuhao was developed almost thirty years before the Yale system in 1913 and was the first to use that style of marking to indicate tone. Is there anything I'm missing or that I don't have totally correct? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.98.79.98 (talk) 05:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Wade-Giles/Yale example

The Japanese machine gun story is cute, but 1) isn't encyclopedic, 2) isn't particularly helpful without the actual Romanization (or original Chinese), and 3) is original research unless you can quote it from somewhere. It's also confusing as all hell the way that it's currently written, and whoever stuck it back up didn't bother to rewrite it. A comparison of the two might be handy, but a table would probably be easier to understand.

Character	English	Pinyin	Yale	Wade-Giles
知	know	zhi1	jr	chih

etc etc? Also, I wonder how the sortable tables sort Chinese characters... 66.108.94.198 (talk) 22:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why does this page exist?

The different Yale romanization systems are used in different circumstances, for different languages. I don't see the advantage of lumping them all together into one page. I'd prefer a separate page for Yale of Mandarin, Yale of Cantonese, Yale of Korean, etc, with this page acting as disambiguation. JohnDavidWard (talk) 17:03, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Upon rereading this comment, I think my tone sounded a little argumentative, which wasn't my intention. I really like this article and how it's come together. I'm just thinking that the Korean section in particular could benefit from being split off. But maybe it'll work just to make a separate Korean Yale article and link it here under the Korean Yale heading? JohnDavidWard (talk) 05:42, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now split into 3 pages as suggested above. Kanguole 11:59, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]